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Departman was founded in 2016 by the two of us; Gülşah Kasap Çelik and Rıdvan Çelik and has since grown into a team; it's an interior architecture and design studio based in Kadıköy, Istanbul.
Could you please tell us about your experience as a designer, artist, architect or creator?
Departman was founded in 2016 by the two of us; Gülşah Kasap Çelik and Rıdvan Çelik and has since grown into a team; it's an interior architecture and design studio based in Kadıköy, Istanbul. Gülşah studied Interior Architecture and Environmental Design at Bahçeşehir University, followed by a master's in UNESCO World Heritage Studies at Brandenburg University of Technology in Germany. Rıdvan trained in painting at Sinop Fine Arts High School and in Interior Architecture at Marmara University's Faculty of Fine Arts, then spent five years as a designer in various interior architecture offices before we started the studio. We work full-scope on residential and commercial interiors; cafés, restaurants, retail, offices and more handling design, execution and in-house furniture production, and our café project Cremma Koşuyolu received a Silver A' Design Award.
How did you become a designer?
For both of us it began with a pull toward making rather than decorating. Rıdvan came from a fine-arts and painting background and spent years drawing fragments of other people's projects in various offices; being one invisible hand in someone else's whole. That pushed him toward independence: a wish to do work he could put himself into and see through in every detail. Gülşah's path ran through interior architecture and then heritage studies, a fascination with how places carry meaning over time. When we met, we began producing together in a workshop, and in 2016 that became Departman. The drive was internal, we wanted to design, not decorate.
What are your priorities, technique and style when designing?
Three things guide us. First, one clear idea: every project hangs on a single concept, and every decision has to serve it. Second, context and identity; we look at where a space is and who will use it, and we aim for a strong, unmistakable character achieved with few, well-chosen materials rather than a crowd of them. Third, craft and longevity because we produce our own pieces, we design for how things are actually made and how they will wear. Stylistically we work in what we'd call a "new classicism": we take familiar, often classical elements and rework them into something contemporary, so a space feels rooted and new at once. We use both digital tools and our hands, 3D visualisation to test the concept, and the atelier to prototype and build.
Which emotions do you feel when designing?
The most exciting phase is the beginning; the research, the learning, narrowing the possibilities, and that moment when a messy problem suddenly resolves into one clear idea. There's real tension in it, the good kind. But the deepest satisfaction comes at the very end, when we stand in the finished space and watch a stranger use it exactly the way we imagined. Because we also build and produce, we get to feel both ends: the thrill of the idea and the quiet reward of seeing it real.
What particular aspects of your background shaped you as a designer?
A fine-arts education taught us to imagine in three dimensions and to keep questioning; to want our spaces to make people stop and think, not just look. Heritage studies gave us a long view of how places accumulate meaning and why the historic fabric of a street is worth responding to. Beyond design skills, the ones that matter most are curiosity, patience, and the discipline to edit, to take things away until only what's necessary remains. And running our own atelier taught us that knowing how something is made is as important as knowing how it should look.
What is your growth path? What are your future plans? What is your dream design project?
We have plans, but what really drives us is to keep moving with pleasure rather than drowning in the pursuit of a single goal; our targets shift constantly through a project; the deeper aim that doesn't change is to catch the spirit of the time. Concretely, we want to grow our in-house furniture line, dept, into a design identity in its own right, and to keep widening the range of things we design
What are your advices to designers who are at the beginning of their career?
Learn how things are actually made, the biggest gap in young designers is between a beautiful drawing and a buildable one, so close it early. Say yes to small projects and see them all the way to the finished space; you learn more from one built café than from ten unbuilt competition boards. And develop a point of view: the field rewards a clear identity more than technical polish.
You are truly successful as a designer, what do you suggest to fellow designers, artists and architects?
Protect the central idea. Most work weakens not from a lack of good elements but from too many of them with no argument between them, the discipline to edit is a pro skill, not a beginner's. Respect context; a space that answers its surroundings ages far better than one that ignores them. And wherever you can, control more of the chain; design and making under one roof loses fewer ideas in the hand-offs that usually kill them
What is your day to day look like?
The day opens and closes with a walk; morning and evening, we're out with our dogs, and those walks are when we clear our heads and, often, when ideas quietly settle. In between, our days split between the studio in Kadıköy; concept work, drawings, reviewing renders and time on site or in the atelier, where design meets reality. As two partners running the whole process, there's rarely a clean line between work and life, and the dogs and those walks are part of what keeps the rhythm human
How do you keep up with latest design trends? To what extent do design trends matter?
We follow the present closely, we spend hours on design sites, because the more we see, and the more varied it is, the richer our vocabulary becomes. But we don't design for the season. Trends inform us; they don't lead us. Our real inspiration comes from the opposite direction too: wandering ancient cities and spending long hours in them, appreciating the beauty that has survived every intervention. Between the very old and the very current, we try to make work that belongs to its time without being disposable.
How do you know if a product or project is well designed? How do you define good design?
Good design has one clear idea and nothing in it that fights that idea. The "aha" moment for us is when a space feels inevitable as if it could not have been otherwise and often when something familiar has been reworked so you read it as recognisable before you realise it's new. Beyond that we look at the fundamentals classical and modern work share, human scale, proportion, symmetry, geometry, balance and at how a thing is detailed and how it will wear. The common mistake to avoid is decorating instead of designing: adding rather than resolving.
How do you decide if your design is ready?
Being two partners gives us a simple, decisive rule: at least one of us has to be one hundred percent sure of an idea. If neither of us is fully convinced, we keep developing it or start over and find a new idea until that certainty is there. Beyond that, a design is ready when nothing can be removed without losing something, when subtraction starts to hurt rather than help. In principle a design can always be pushed further, and we do keep an open tab in our minds for earlier work; but there's a point where the concept is fully expressed and further changes would only be noise. Cremma was a rare case: we knew exactly what we wanted and completed it with no revisions at all, a sign the idea was right from the start.
What is your biggest design work?
Cremma Koşuyolu. Koşuyolu is a neighbourhood of old, bay-windowed (cumba) houses, and the existing building stood out of step with that fabric. Our idea was to reconcile it with its context, to borrow the language of those old houses and rework it into a contemporary café that belongs to the street again. The client gave us complete freedom, so the biggest challenge was living up to that freedom, taking full responsibility for every decision. We designed the sculptures at concept stage and realised them with artists, worked with engineers on the metal construction, and produced the custom furniture in our own atelier. It's special because it demonstrates the whole studio in one compact space and it earned a Silver A' Design Award.
Who is your favourite designer?
We're drawn more to periods and places than to single names — classical architecture and its later reworkings, and the ancient cities we visit.
Would you tell us a bit about your lifestyle and culture?
We live and work in Istanbul, a city that has always sat between East and West, old and new, and that tension is a gift for a designer. We both spent our early years in the countryside, close to nature, before moving here, and that mix of the rural and the metropolitan still shapes how we see space. Our culture reaches our work directly, and a respect for the layered and the historic runs through what we design. We believe good design matters for society because well-made, long-lived spaces use resources wisely and give people places worth keeping, the opposite of the disposable interiors that get torn out every few years.
Would you tell us more about your work culture and business philosophy?
We are Departman's founders, but the studio isn't just the two of us; we work with a team, and our own atelier produces the custom pieces. We keep the studio deliberately hands-on: we don't want to be invisible in our own projects, so we stay close to every detail from concept to production. What we look for in the people and specialists we work with, our team, and the engineers, artists and makers we bring in; is craft and care: people who take responsibility for their part the way we do for ours. The core challenge of the profession is doing justice to trust, a client who hands you their space and their budget is a real responsibility. What can't be forgotten is that we're making places people will actually live in, not photographs.
What are your philanthropic contributions to society as a designer, artist and architect?
The way we see our social responsibility is mainly through the work itself: designing for longevity, using few but quality materials, and producing locally so resources aren't wasted.
What positive experiences you had when you attend the A' Design Award?
Winning a Silver A' Design Award for Cremma Koşuyolu gave the studio something rare for a practice our size: an outside, international benchmark for our work. Three benefits stand out. First, recognition; an independent stamp that reaches an audience far beyond our own network. Second, perspective; seeing our work next to international projects sharpens how we judge our own. Third, motivation; it affirmed that our way of working, design and making under one roof, is worth protecting and pushing further.